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Mar. 1st, 2005 @ 04:43 pm Weekly topic--one week later! Wow!
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syonakeleste:
Or, if the topic is perhaps too broad, let us start with friendships. How do friendships increase or decrease angst? Does just the thought of friendships have any effect? I, for one, was dismayed by my inability to form common bonds before that thought paled under the realization that I am was unable to exist outside the imagination of a despotic, supernatural...

In any event, there are numerous mitigating factors. ::looks to distract::

Kurosaki-san, start us off, won't you?
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From:gaudior
Date:March 1st, 2005 03:15 pm (UTC)

Hisoka

(Never Forget)
*throws Mikage a "why me?" glare*

Friendships? They're better to have than not.

A despotic, supernatural what?
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From:thedemonprist
Date:March 2nd, 2005 12:15 am (UTC)

Muraki

(Never Forget)
I have heard there is a saying: 'Friends help you move. Real friends help you move dead bodies.' *chuckles quietly to self*
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From:signy1
Date:March 3rd, 2005 06:40 pm (UTC)

Tsuzuki

(Never Forget)
*The effort it is taking to ignore Muraki is plainly visible.*

Friends? Friends are great! A person needs friends; the world is too big and lonely otherwise. Why, without my friends... I wouldn't even be here today.
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From:eredien
Date:March 7th, 2005 07:37 pm (UTC)
(Never Forget)
Evrything in Hatori's manner bespeaks simple polite interest as Mikage finishes introducing the new topic.

He sits back in his chair, which creaks mildly, and listens to the others' replies with a slightly distracted air.

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From:gaudior
Date:March 8th, 2005 03:41 am (UTC)

Akito

(Never Forget)
Isn't that a little naive? No-one does anything for you unless they want something from you. You can call it "friendship" if you want, but that doesn't make it any less mercenary.
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From:lignota
Date:March 13th, 2005 06:28 am (UTC)
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This one has met many people who act out of generosity and concern for others, that is. Sometimes it can be difficult to accept others' kindness. But it is often true that there are people nearby who offer friendship, even if one cannot yet accept it.
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From:gaudior
Date:March 14th, 2005 05:32 am (UTC)

akito

(Never Forget)
I didn't say there weren't. I just said that it's naive to think that they're not trying to get something out of it.
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From:signy1
Date:March 14th, 2005 09:39 pm (UTC)

Tsuzuki

(Never Forget)
Maybe, if I save your life today, there's the expectation that you'll save my life tomorrow; that's probably the most coldbloodedly practical reason. But I don't think most people think that way.

Then again, if I save your life today, it's because I'm hoping that you'll be around tomorrow and I prefer the world with you in it rather than otherwise. Is that what you mean by 'trying to get something out of it?' If the world is simply more tolerable *with* that person, that friend, than it is without them? If the person is that valuable for their own sake? I guess that's sort of selfish, if the other person doesn't... ahh... *For no apparent reason, he turns bright red and continues speaking very, very quickly.* But I'm sure the other person does. Always. Really.
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From:gaudior
Date:March 16th, 2005 05:44 am (UTC)

Hisoka

(Never Forget)
*winces.*

Maybe it is selfish. It's... not meant to be. Probably.

Maybe one just stops being able to think about it objectively. Maybe one stops thinking clearly, just... acts.

Because of friendship.
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From:signy1
Date:March 16th, 2005 07:48 am (UTC)

Tsuzuki

(Never Forget)
*Still talking too quickly, obviously scared he's put his foot in it.* Yeah! Cause it works in pairs, you see? If they need each other to be there in order to make the world work right, it's not selfish, it's not bad-- what's the scientific word? Watari told me once... I remember. Parasitism is when one person is using the other. *Glances at Muraki pointedly.* And there's something different- mutualism, it's called- when they help each other and can't survive alone.

Like termites. They've got little bugs in their stomachs that digest the wood for them. The termite stays healthy, the bug is safe, everyone's happy. That's what friends are supposed to be like. Termites.

*Smiles hopefully at Hisoka.*
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From:thedemonprist
Date:March 17th, 2005 10:01 pm (UTC)

Muraki

(Never Forget)
*chuckles softly, amused by Tsuzuki's obvious show of nerves*

Parasitism is also what ensures you your job, is that not correct, Tsuzuki-san? Without the lives of humans, you are little more than Enma's lapdog, a pretty pet on a leash. *reaches out and affectionately strokes Tsuzuki's cheek* It's all right. I quite understand. And I'll always be there for you. *smirk* Parasitism...mutualism...it's all the same thing.
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From:gaudior
Date:March 16th, 2005 09:08 am (UTC)

Hisoka

(Never Forget)
*raising an eyebrow*

Termites?

*But he sort of half-smiles back.*
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From:signy1
Date:March 18th, 2005 08:14 am (UTC)

Tsuzuki, to Muraki

(Never Forget)
With the job or without it, I *am* King Enma's possession. I don't know I'd say I'm a lapdog on a leash or a junkyard mongrel kept chained, but one way or the other, yes. That's the situation, and I'm not so naive as to deny it.

But if you're going to say that's the same as friendship, you're only fooling yourself. I know the difference between a friend who wants me for me and a master who wants to use me for himself. How could I not know?

Besides-- Mibu Oriya. Do you value him for anything other than his connections and assistance?
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From:thedemonprist
Date:March 19th, 2005 03:34 am (UTC)

Muraki, to Tsuzuki

(Never Forget)
Oriya? Well, he makes a *wonderful* cup of tea...I would be most happy to share some with you sometime, ne? I do believe you would adore the food at Kokakurou. The chef is renowned for his desserts, I've heard. *winks*

*smile deepens* Who's fooling whom here? You seem quite content to remain on Enma's leash even though it so obviously is not in your best interests. Unlike your so-called 'king', I am not afraid of your power, Tsuzuki-san. I know what you are. I understand you. Because we are the same, no matter how much you deny otherwise.
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From:eredien
Date:March 19th, 2005 01:00 pm (UTC)
(Never Forget)
Hatori listens intently to Tsuzuki's reply to Muraki. Whether the small noise he makes is a snort of disgust or a choked sigh is unclear.
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From:gaudior
Date:March 20th, 2005 11:57 am (UTC)

Hisoka

(Never Forget)
*to Muraki*

The same?

You torture people to death. Tsuzuki doesn't.

How do you deny that?
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From:powercorrupts
Date:March 20th, 2005 12:22 pm (UTC)

Sephiroth

(Never Forget)
Even the best friend will get in your way at the most important times. They're not really worth it.

*Unusually, he doesn't look at Cloud at all while speaking, and definitely doesn't smirk or anything at him.*
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From:signy1
Date:March 20th, 2005 06:28 pm (UTC)

Tsuzuki

(Never Forget)
*For some reason, he winced more at Hisoka's comment than he did at Muraki's. He looks miserable.*
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From:lignota
Date:March 20th, 2005 06:29 pm (UTC)

Kenshin

(Never Forget)
Friends can get in the way, that they do . . . and they can help you when you least expect it, that is. *smile*
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From:lignota
Date:March 20th, 2005 06:35 pm (UTC)

Kenshin

(Never Forget)
*looking concerned* Tsuzuki-san . . .
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From:rackhamrose
Date:March 20th, 2005 10:14 pm (UTC)

Tatsumi

(Never Forget)
I don't think it's entirely a coincidence that the Buddha once said "He who loves 50 people has 50 woes; he who loves no one has no woes."
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From:thedemonprist
Date:March 20th, 2005 10:22 pm (UTC)

Muraki, to Hisoka

(Never Forget)
Torture? *chuckle* Such a simplistic word for my merely bringing out what was already within. I do, after all, have an appreciation for art.

*smiles, but there is a tiny hint of ice in his gaze* Tsuzuki-san and I are both hunters, boy. We kill people. This we do not deny. But you are sadly mistaken if you honestly believe you can temper that beast within us. It is not in either of our natures to deny ourselves that which drives us. *looks somewhat sadly at Tsuzuki* Except that where I have accepted my inherent nature, Tsuzuki-san makes a pathetic attempt to subvert his true cravings by gorging on sweets and playing the innocent simpleton for others' amusement. Thus, he suffers constantly from the facade he must always maintain and the need to allow his real self free reign, for he knows he can never deny himself the truth, no matter how much he - or you - might wish to otherwise. That, boy, is what I'd call 'torture.'
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From:rackhamrose
Date:March 20th, 2005 10:34 pm (UTC)

Tatsumi, to Muraki

(Never Forget)
Dr. Muraki, you will stop harassing my employees now, or I will take extreme measures to ensure that you do.

I will not ask twice.
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From:thedemonprist
Date:March 20th, 2005 11:22 pm (UTC)

Muraki, to Tatsumi

(Never Forget)
*grins* Really, Tatsumi-san? There's a fine line between 'harassment' and discussion where you seem to be concerned, now, isn't there? Pray tell, what constitutes your definition of 'harassment', seeing as how we are engaged in no more suspicious activity than amicable discussion? And in order for it to function properly, any such discussion requires the participation of group members, does it not?

While we're at it, might you enlighten the rest of us as to what sort of 'measures' you would be referring to? After all, it's not as if my financial income depends on your whim. *chuckles* Such childish threats do not become you, Tatsumi-san.
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From:lignota
Date:March 21st, 2005 03:39 pm (UTC)

Kenshin

(Never Forget)
(Kenshin's eyes flash when Muraki mentions his and Tsuzuki's nature, but he does not have time to speak before Mikage introduces the next topic. He therefore waits patiently, polite rurouni that he is. There will be another time.)
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